GZ Roundtable: Do gamers deserve compensation when PSN and Xbox Live go down?

Do the extra cents matter?

Xbox Live was hit with multiple issues over the last few weeks, leaving the community somewhat aggravated with their inability to play games. The aggravation has displayed itself as multiple requests for compensation for the online service's downtime.

In regards to the requests for compensation, Microsoft's Larry Hryb recently stated that he would speak with the Xbox team and make them aware the request. Whether or not Microsoft intends on fulfilling the request has not been announced, but the issue has sparked some debate.

Do gamers really deserve to be compensated when online services go down?

TatiTatiana Morristw

Stance: Have you considered the repercussions?

The real question is what will satisfy the gaming community in terms of compensation and will they ever be satisfied. We could be looking at a case of the 'Hungry, Hungry Hippos' who will always want more. This sense of entitlement and need can only breed further issues.

So, you want Microsoft and Sony to start considering compensating you for when their services are down? Consider this, if the companies have to shell out cash or credits every time their service goes down they might raise the price of their service to fund your compensation (each day will only give you a couple cents anyway). If the companies offer you a game, is an indie title enough for you? 

Xbox One gives Gold members free games every month – regardless of whether you remain a Gold Member or not and PS Plus members get lent free games (the moment you stop paying you lose those games). If you want compensation for a service that gives you plenty of freebies, you might want to consider the cost. If you aren't OK with a potential repercussions, it might be best to use the service break to go outside, watch TV or read a book — or just stop complaining.

PurcellDavid Purcelltw

Stance: It's their choice, but you have a choice as well.

The way I see it customers are paying on a subscription basis for a service and Microsoft, Sony, whoever it may be should try to deliver that online service in the best way possible. If companies have a few hitches and the servers go down, maybe for a few days on a rare occasion, then gamers aren't really going to expect compensation – well, most of them anyway. 

 
However, when you have a situation where servers are constantly going down there is going to be some frustration, and quite possibly those responsible could offer some compensation – maybe a free game or a discount code. That decision is their's to make. I don't really think at this time we should be badgering companies to provide compensation every time the servers drop, because that would just be ridiculous. But, if the situation was to worsen I could understand people feeling entitled to a little compensation,
 
Ultimately if you're not happy with the service provided, buy a better console. 

Boccher

Mike Bocchertw

Stance: STFU

Those who know me consider me the most direct person they'll ever meet. You ask me for an opinion, I'll give it to you. I won't be sarcastic about it, but don't ask me if you're going to get mad if it's not what you want to hear. Let's be honest. These companies don't owe us dick. It's because of a generation of millennials that were raised to be this way; entitled and whiny. Every sport you played, you got a trophy no matter what place you finished in, even if you never won a game. You THINK you're right by asking for compensation simply because other people share the same entitled, whiny opinion. After all, if someone else has the same opinion as you, then you must be right? Wrong. 

A bunch of wrong minded people doesn't make it right. We're not entitled to a single, damn thing for a little outage of online gaming. It's what is wrong with the mentality of many people today. No sense of personal responsibility and hiding behind admitting you're wrong by using phrases like "in my opinion" and "I feel like..". Well, opinions and feeling are wrong many times, especially when based on factual circumstances.  If you keep trying to be a taker and get handouts, rather than a maker and do something yourself, you'll never get anywhere in life. Real easy phrase to remember as you troll through life with Doritos dust on your fingers and Mountain Dew stains on your controller, "Pigs get fat, but hogs get slaughtered". 

These are the same people that got coddled with cookies and ice cream as kids rather than being told to suck it up every once in a while. Grow up, companies don't owe you a thing. 

BiazzoJordan Biazzot

Stance: Yes.

This current gen console cycle, online functionality has really become an important aspect of gaming. Not only do most games require the internet to play, but they also require some sort of subscription model to access each console's online capabilities.

So when the PSN or XBL crashes due to hackers or just plain out outages, this sort of creates a huge dilemma for the player. Gamers spend their hard earned money on that new $60 multiplayer game that they have been looking to play for the weekend just for the online services to be down.

I'm not necessarily asking for a full $60 dollar refund because that would absolutely make no sense. A lot of time the services are down for about 12-24 hours so there is no reason for a huge compensation; but a few years ago when the PSN went down for over a month, it makes sense.

It would be nice on companies to give some sort of free content like a background theme, avatar, or an old game to make up for the online outage, but gamers most definitely are not entitled to free things every time a problem occurs.

WynneJames Wynnetw

Stance: Depends, but companies should do it anyway

It depends on what services, how long, and why the services are going down as to whether or not the gamers deserve compensation. People are paying for a service, so companies should do everything in their power to make sure it's up. Gamers should get to complain when the services go down, but they should also take into consideration extraordinary circumstances. Natural disasters and large scale cyber attacks are examples of special cases where maybe gamers should just shut up. Poor preparation and errant cups of coffee? Not so much.

I can understand wanting to bitch at a company because their services are down when you were looking forward to gaming with friends on your day off, but compensation? Gamers that feel the need to complain about compensation for a service that costs pennies on the day are pretty pathetic.

That being said, companies should compensate them. The good will generated by a tiny act of compensation is always a net gain for a large company.

MillerDaniel Miller tw

Stance: Depends on the situation

Life isn't fair, and sometimes it's better to pick your battles than go to war every time something doesn't go your way….said no one ever on the internet.

When it comes to technology, you can count on one thing to always be true. It will fail from time to time. That goes for Xbox Live, PSN, Steam, Nintendo or whatever platform you swear allegiance to. Fortunately, it doesn't happen much, but it can and will happen. Gamers have the right to be alarmed when personal information (Credit Card numbers, addresses, things people can use to steal your identity) is compromised, which to be fair has happened once before. As far as the recent Xbox Live hack attacks go (and any similar situation), the notion of "deserving compensation" is a joke. 

There's a huge personality problem in the gaming community. And there are more than a handful of gamers that could stand to benefit from more rational (and humble) trains of thought. For those who provided the "less thoughtful comments" that Major Nelson didn't take to the Xbox Team, go hold down a customer service job for a while and then see how entitled you feel.  

TravisTravis Amores tw

Stance: Stop whining!

 I personally think you can’t blame gamers for wanting free stuff, but there is a sense of self-entitlement when things go awry. If you’ve ever worked in customer service, you know firsthand as soon as anything falls just short of a company’s control, people like to switch to that “customer is always right” default and demand compensation, regardless of whether or not they were affected directly.
 
I had a Playstation Network account during the 2011 hack that resulted in the Welcome Back Package. Sure, I claimed my free games and digital chachkies and what not, but I remember I only knew that was going on from a friend who filled me in. I had no reason to be so frustrated with the performance of Sony that I demanded a payout, and I wouldn’t have even known it was an issue regardless. Needless to say, PSN has been hacked so many times since then that I often question my loyalty, but that’s beside the point.
 
At the end of the day, you gotta wonder if gamers would rather have a functioning gaming network, or something that constantly needs maintenance just so they can demand payback for issues they might not have even noticed. Going down for a few hours at four in the morning doesn’t entitle someone to the entire Final Fantasy library and an avatar for everyday of the year. Gamer compensation should depend on the extent of the damage, but it’s usually never enough to actually warrant reimbursement. 

KnauerSteve Knauertw

Stance: Depends.

It depends. I'm a PC gamer, so online services are free. So in my case, no way should I be compensated. However, On Xbox One and Playstation 4, those services are considered premium. They're a service one pays for. So in those cases, they should be compensated.

Some of us GameZoners actually compared it to a number of other services in the non-gamer world. One comparison was the electric company. Do you deserve compensation if your power goes out? Well, no. You pay for how much you use. If the power is out, you don't use it, nor are you charged for anything. A better comparison in my opinion is the cable company. You pay a flat rate for cable. That means you should be able to watch it 24/7 without interruption if you wanted. 

If cable goes out (and you create a big enough stink) you can be compensated for your inconvenience. Why is online functionality of a video game system any different? The debate really lies in what you're compensated with. Personally, I'd say you should receive a credit for how ever many minutes the service was down, what ever dollar amount that is. So what if you get $0.08 worth of time reimbursed? It's the principal of the matter.